| Who where actually beleives you can learn Martial Arts properly over the internet, books etc with no teacher?

Who where actually beleives you can learn Martial Arts properly over the internet, books etc with no teacher?

Fenris Troll Ripper JPA RT ATL ® asked:


Im curious to others opinions if you think you can actually learn MA or self defense well enough to be effective on the street without having a former teacher?
Oh i already agree, I just talked to someone in a different question a few days ago that actually thought that you could purely learn this way. I disagreed so i thought id put it to a vote with the community and so far you all agree with me that having a teacher is fundamental at one point or another in your training. TY.
So many good answers Im gonna let this one go to a vote. I can’t pick the best this time. I agreed with all but one.

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7 Responses to “Who where actually beleives you can learn Martial Arts properly over the internet, books etc with no teacher?”

  1. Sensei on April 15th, 2009 3:19 pm

    If you have a true foundation already, as in ‘you trained with a real instructor and learned well’… yes.

    If then, you find a video, and what a video that would have to be, you can learn from a video. You can learn certain things from a book but not very much.

    It also depends on what type of learner you are.

    If you know nothing… forget it.

  2. Big Foot on April 15th, 2009 6:55 pm

    You can, but you have to be VERY determained, like my teacher always says, he isn’t there so much to teach but to remind us of what we already know, if someone practices hard enough and has the motivation they can learn from books and on the internet, probably need a partener though to practice with but its not impossible

    Sometimes the info on the internet is better than what the teacher is teaching also so you can get a better fighter that learned from books

  3. peter on April 15th, 2009 8:23 pm

    the main problem with learning over the internet is it also means you have no-one to practise everything on.. and no one is there to tell you what you are doing wrong with your technique.. really if you practice hard though and get some help from a friend it might be possible.
    I would recommend taking a martial arts class of some sort though and then using internet resources for extra learning and to give you ideas, check your technique etc..

  4. shotokantiger71 on April 16th, 2009 1:33 pm

    No one can learn that way no personal attention to the detail or if you doing your part right. I mean they are good teaching aids or brushing up on things you already know. But otherwise you need a school and instructor to make it work.

  5. peter gunn on April 16th, 2009 8:28 pm

    well you can learn MA over the pc . But only the kind that will serve you good in the classical beat em up games. (square, square, circle L2) real powerful combo LOL. Seriously I think that books only serve their purpose for theory (and yes theory is important too). I had a brief discussion with my teacher and ine of his friends (a capoeira mestre) a little while back. My teacher claimed that there was no point in reading books to learn martial arts. My point was that even though MA is mostly physical, strategy and tactics are things that are both practical and theoretical and that they are just as important in individual MA as they are in battles and armies. Mestre agreed my teacher didn’t which makes that I have to find me a portugese copy of szun tzu’s art of war in a few weeks time. But anyways my point is that indeed books and reading can help you with theory but the rest is practice, practice and more practice with the help of a teacher

  6. shootersway on April 17th, 2009 8:49 am

    You may learn and do something that looks like karate but falls apart under stress situations.The important stuff come from your sensei and your dojo mates thru application.There are no short cuts.

  7. spidertiger440 on April 18th, 2009 3:49 am

    I believe the Internet, videos and books are only supplements for actual training.